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panesar100
January 23, 2008, 12:19 PM
I started watching DV but i am sorry to say that the Sagarz have got it all terribly messed up even though the soap as a whole is watchable(at least till the time being). First of all they show us the top of map of india and tell us that the land of the story is there ie Arya....
a)In there, the citizens are divided into TWO classes or sects:The rulers and the workers. From where did the social background of Ancient Greece where
(wikipedia) "Athenian democracy, was based on selection of officials by lot, based on the assumption that all citizens were equally qualified for office. Election was not practised because it was thought to favor the wealthy and powerful. The only state officials who were elected were those of whom expert knowledge and skills were required, such as the ten generals, and the treasurers, who had to be wealthy as any funds revealed to have been embezzled were recovered from a treasurer's private fortune. The courts operated with large juries also selected by lot on a daily basis from an annual pool also selected by lot; there were no judges. Assumption of such offices by the citizens selected was mandatory, and a very modest financial compensation was given to those citizens whose livelihood was compromised by their being thus "drafted" to office."
The laborers in Greece didn used to have the power to vote and after centuries of oppression, they revolted and that led to bloodbath in ancient Greece. And here, one grp of people is entirely WoRKER CLASS:D As far as I know theSOCIETY WAS DIVIDED INTO 4 VARNAS/CASTE IE bRHMIN,KSHETRIYA,VAISHYA(traders) AND sHUDRA(laborers and untouchables)And also, in DV they have shown the OPPressed class as gYPSIES wearinf same sort of clothes.

b) From when in india came Such a council who started electing King. There used to be "sabhas/samitis" in ancient India who used to advise King on selection of crown prince,handle state affairs but NOT choose King among 2 princes.
In ancient greece, the group of prominent members of soceity used to assemble called SENATE and used to elect their leader. That's where Democracy actually started

~AmRiT_hUnJaN~
January 23, 2008, 03:50 PM
I started watching DV but i am sorry to say that the Sagarz have got it all terribly messed up even though the soap as a whole is watchable(at least till the time being). First of all they show us the top of map of india and tell us that the land of the story is there ie Arya....
a)In there, the citizens are divided into TWO classes or sects:The rulers and the workers. From where did the social background of Ancient Greece where
(wikipedia) "Athenian democracy, was based on selection of officials by lot, based on the assumption that all citizens were equally qualified for office. Election was not practised because it was thought to favor the wealthy and powerful. The only state officials who were elected were those of whom expert knowledge and skills were required, such as the ten generals, and the treasurers, who had to be wealthy as any funds revealed to have been embezzled were recovered from a treasurer's private fortune. The courts operated with large juries also selected by lot on a daily basis from an annual pool also selected by lot; there were no judges. Assumption of such offices by the citizens selected was mandatory, and a very modest financial compensation was given to those citizens whose livelihood was compromised by their being thus "drafted" to office."
The laborers in Greece didn used to have the power to vote and after centuries of oppression, they revolted and that led to bloodbath in ancient Greece. And here, one grp of people is entirely WoRKER CLASS:D As far as I know theSOCIETY WAS DIVIDED INTO 4 VARNAS/CASTE IE bRHMIN,KSHETRIYA,VAISHYA(traders) AND sHUDRA(laborers and untouchables)And also, in DV they have shown the OPPressed class as gYPSIES wearinf same sort of clothes.

b) From when in india came Such a council who started electing King. There used to be "sabhas/samitis" in ancient India who used to advise King on selection of crown prince,handle state affairs but NOT choose King among 2 princes.
In ancient greece, the group of prominent members of soceity used to assemble called SENATE and used to elect their leader. That's where Democracy actually started

i dont want any crictics on dv plsssssssss
my request.

garvita
January 23, 2008, 03:57 PM
I started watching DV but i am sorry to say that the Sagarz have got it all terribly messed up even though the soap as a whole is watchable(at least till the time being). First of all they show us the top of map of india and tell us that the land of the story is there ie Arya....
a)In there, the citizens are divided into TWO classes or sects:The rulers and the workers. From where did the social background of Ancient Greece where
(wikipedia) "Athenian democracy, was based on selection of officials by lot, based on the assumption that all citizens were equally qualified for office. Election was not practised because it was thought to favor the wealthy and powerful. The only state officials who were elected were those of whom expert knowledge and skills were required, such as the ten generals, and the treasurers, who had to be wealthy as any funds revealed to have been embezzled were recovered from a treasurer's private fortune. The courts operated with large juries also selected by lot on a daily basis from an annual pool also selected by lot; there were no judges. Assumption of such offices by the citizens selected was mandatory, and a very modest financial compensation was given to those citizens whose livelihood was compromised by their being thus "drafted" to office."
The laborers in Greece didn used to have the power to vote and after centuries of oppression, they revolted and that led to bloodbath in ancient Greece. And here, one grp of people is entirely WoRKER CLASS:D As far as I know theSOCIETY WAS DIVIDED INTO 4 VARNAS/CASTE IE bRHMIN,KSHETRIYA,VAISHYA(traders) AND sHUDRA(laborers and untouchables)And also, in DV they have shown the OPPressed class as gYPSIES wearinf same sort of clothes.

b) From when in india came Such a council who started electing King. There used to be "sabhas/samitis" in ancient India who used to advise King on selection of crown prince,handle state affairs but NOT choose King among 2 princes.
In ancient greece, the group of prominent members of soceity used to assemble called SENATE and used to elect their leader. That's where Democracy actually started


hey plz dont do comment u r here only for crictics
i havent rad ur matter becoz i m not interested

Ishu
January 23, 2008, 08:49 PM
i wud not say anything more than that .........birth of veer is same as that of christ(as shown )

I LOVED THE ENTRY OF RAJAT........................he was given more importance

masumirocks
January 24, 2008, 12:34 AM
Dharam Veer is not a true story !!!!
everythings fictionalized so it does not matter if there were only two classes of people or that they wore the same type of clothes .
besides the people were scared to rebel since they fully depended on the aryavrats .. veers dad had protested but died . anyways have u forgotten that veer is going to bring independence to the workers ????[ he is destined to]

shyme
January 24, 2008, 02:18 PM
Hey PLS dont criticise the lovely show !!!! I mean who always wants a real story on TV . In the very beginning of every show they show a disclaimer saying it is a fictitious historical period drama . And moreover Indian has the oldest history of democracy . Vaishali was a republic and the Lichchavis elected their leader !!!!
Its a good show and SAGARS are offering a variety of shows from Mythology to historical to fictition to fantasy . ITS LOVELY !!!!!!!!!!!
DHARAMVEER ROCKS !!!!!

cherry
January 24, 2008, 06:25 PM
panesar i just dunnno understand wott ur problem is i think eithwr u have
a official or prsnl probs wid sagars or either ur jeaolous of rt:mad: :rolleyes:
n stop being sheepish i dont understand ur probs.............................
u have problem wid prc n now wid dv i think the once against sagars shud not post their critising views here in forum.........:mad:

hotishi18
January 24, 2008, 06:44 PM
I started watching DV but i am sorry to say that the Sagarz have got it all terribly messed up even though the soap as a whole is watchable(at least till the time being). First of all they show us the top of map of india and tell us that the land of the story is there ie Arya....
a)In there, the citizens are divided into TWO classes or sects:The rulers and the workers. From where did the social background of Ancient Greece where
(wikipedia) "Athenian democracy, was based on selection of officials by lot, based on the assumption that all citizens were equally qualified for office. Election was not practised because it was thought to favor the wealthy and powerful. The only state officials who were elected were those of whom expert knowledge and skills were required, such as the ten generals, and the treasurers, who had to be wealthy as any funds revealed to have been embezzled were recovered from a treasurer's private fortune. The courts operated with large juries also selected by lot on a daily basis from an annual pool also selected by lot; there were no judges. Assumption of such offices by the citizens selected was mandatory, and a very modest financial compensation was given to those citizens whose livelihood was compromised by their being thus "drafted" to office."
The laborers in Greece didn used to have the power to vote and after centuries of oppression, they revolted and that led to bloodbath in ancient Greece. And here, one grp of people is entirely WoRKER CLASS:D As far as I know theSOCIETY WAS DIVIDED INTO 4 VARNAS/CASTE IE bRHMIN,KSHETRIYA,VAISHYA(traders) AND sHUDRA(laborers and untouchables)And also, in DV they have shown the OPPressed class as gYPSIES wearinf same sort of clothes.

b) From when in india came Such a council who started electing King. There used to be "sabhas/samitis" in ancient India who used to advise King on selection of crown prince,handle state affairs but NOT choose King among 2 princes.
In ancient greece, the group of prominent members of soceity used to assemble called SENATE and used to elect their leader. That's where Democracy actually started
i think its a good show and rajat is acting very well so all this dosent really make sense

baraiya kh
January 25, 2008, 11:48 AM
oh........... i m agree with u ......... this show is kind of sloemoving and boring.....

~AmRiT_hUnJaN~
January 25, 2008, 11:52 AM
oh........... i m agree with u ......... this show is kind of sloemoving and boring.....
Boring people find everything boring.

baraiya kh
January 25, 2008, 11:56 AM
Boring people find everything boring.


woh bhi hain amrit........ im boring...... but only 4 ppl i know......but that show is boring 2 all indians who watch.........and only story........

panesar100
January 25, 2008, 12:17 PM
oh........... i m agree with u ......... this show is kind of sloemoving and boring.....

Thanx for havin the same thought as me.....

I wrote this after seeing the 1st episode. The next 3 ones were watchable or partly interersting if not terrific. This show will have to be innovative (if you(sagarz) can, plagiarise sth from CHANDRAKANTA and try bringing "tilism and ayyars" into the serial). The story, i found them watchable coz currently my academics has not been so hectic as it shud hav been( i am studin CA), so i have managed to watch the show. Nowadays there are numerous channels, and to grasp strongly the viewers, the sagarz can't let the story/plot to be stagnant as sometimes they used to do in case of prc(even when rt was there).

As for being jealous of RT, i don't think RT is only successful kid in the world.
If i have to be jealous of sb, it wud be DARSHEEL.

baraiya kh
January 25, 2008, 12:19 PM
Thanx for havin the same thought as me.....

I wrote this after seeing the 1st episode. The next 3 ones were watchable or partly interersting if not terrific. This show will have to be innovative (if you(sagarz) can, plagiarise sth from CHANDRAKANTA and try bringing "tilism and ayyars" into the serial). The story, i found them watchable coz currently my academics has not been so hectic as it shud hav been( i am studin CA), so i have managed to watch the show. Nowadays there are numerous channels, and to grasp strongly the viewers, the sagarz can't let the story/plot to be stagnant as sometimes they used to do in case of prc(even when rt was there).

As for being jealous of RT, i don't think RT is only successful kid in the world.
If i have to be jealous of sb, it wud be DARSHEEL.


and who is this darsheel?????????? may i know?????

Ruchira
January 25, 2008, 02:11 PM
I started watching DV but i am sorry to say that the Sagarz have got it all terribly messed up even though the soap as a whole is watchable(at least till the time being). First of all they show us the top of map of india and tell us that the land of the story is there ie Arya....
a)In there, the citizens are divided into TWO classes or sects:The rulers and the workers. From where did the social background of Ancient Greece where
(wikipedia) "Athenian democracy, was based on selection of officials by lot, based on the assumption that all citizens were equally qualified for office. Election was not practised because it was thought to favor the wealthy and powerful. The only state officials who were elected were those of whom expert knowledge and skills were required, such as the ten generals, and the treasurers, who had to be wealthy as any funds revealed to have been embezzled were recovered from a treasurer's private fortune. The courts operated with large juries also selected by lot on a daily basis from an annual pool also selected by lot; there were no judges. Assumption of such offices by the citizens selected was mandatory, and a very modest financial compensation was given to those citizens whose livelihood was compromised by their being thus "drafted" to office."
The laborers in Greece didn used to have the power to vote and after centuries of oppression, they revolted and that led to bloodbath in ancient Greece. And here, one grp of people is entirely WoRKER CLASS:D As far as I know theSOCIETY WAS DIVIDED INTO 4 VARNAS/CASTE IE bRHMIN,KSHETRIYA,VAISHYA(traders) AND sHUDRA(laborers and untouchables)And also, in DV they have shown the OPPressed class as gYPSIES wearinf same sort of clothes.

b) From when in india came Such a council who started electing King. There used to be "sabhas/samitis" in ancient India who used to advise King on selection of crown prince,handle state affairs but NOT choose King among 2 princes.
In ancient greece, the group of prominent members of soceity used to assemble called SENATE and used to elect their leader. That's where Democracy actually started
I get your point. But the show tagline says its completely fiction. They want to put up a message against divisions in society through this fictionalized society.

Ruchira
January 25, 2008, 02:15 PM
I think they got ideas from the way the Egyptians tortured the Jews to build pyramids before the advent of Moses. I think that's the visual message.

jasmine_cute
January 25, 2008, 03:47 PM
dont know nothing abt indian history
but i love the way daramveer is represented
and dont want any changes so plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
no critics

Ruchira
January 25, 2008, 05:24 PM
and who is this darsheel?????????? may i know?????
Darshhel is Ishaan from Taare Zameen Par, I think. Well, he is mind-blowing. And Paneswar is kind of right, Rajat Tokas is not the only successful kid in the world, although he is good and hard-working in what he does.
Plagiarism is nothing new in Indian television. Sagars current track in Alaadin on Zee is an open lift off from Harry potter-1. DharamVeer is the Moses story with names changed- although I guess they have to change track somewhere. I don't think Rajat's character will start a new religion. Come on, Kekta plagiarizes from her own shows!:D
Anyway, I think Dharamveer will pick up speed in a week or 2. And so far, it looks good. What will happen later on, I don't know. All Indian serials usually start well, then they lose their path midway.

cherry
January 25, 2008, 07:20 PM
Boring people find everything boring.i truley agree wid u bro

~AmRiT_hUnJaN~
January 25, 2008, 07:26 PM
dont know nothing abt indian history
but i love the way daramveer is represented
and dont want any changes so plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
no critics

this is not indian history.......

u only have to IMAGINE

Ruchira
January 26, 2008, 06:16 PM
this is not indian history.......

u only have to IMAGINE
Good point, Amrit.

madiha_akb
January 26, 2008, 06:28 PM
:) heyy guys even i want 2 say somethng abt the show

dv is gud but i feel rt actng like tht is not the rt we used 2 see , hez actng very sweet n cool , but i used 2 luv him as prc where in he was too authoritative n an gry young man

moreover i had taken the pt b4 tht its copied entirely frm our prophet musa story

n the serial coming 5 days a week , i jst hope its not made into saas bahu kind of show wherein l8 on dharam n veer fight 4 mugdha n agni brainwashng dharam if sagars show all ths thn toh serial gaya kaam se

the serial has the entire egypt as background but shown it as india coz the way they r dressed n the back colour yellow is mostly seen in egypt n pharoahs

ryt now im missing action scenes n i really dnt like the heros n villains actng so thand , the serial wud luk better if their is action romance n drama like prc wherein everythng used 2 keep u on foot

anyways thts wat i feel

but no offece 2 rt fans ok:)

baraiya kh
January 27, 2008, 06:38 AM
:) heyy guys even i want 2 say somethng abt the show

dv is gud but i feel rt actng like tht is not the rt we used 2 see , hez actng very sweet n cool , but i used 2 luv him as prc where in he was too authoritative n an gry young man

moreover i had taken the pt b4 tht its copied entirely frm our prophet musa story

n the serial coming 5 days a week , i jst hope its not made into saas bahu kind of show wherein l8 on dharam n veer fight 4 mugdha n agni brainwashng dharam if sagars show all ths thn toh serial gaya kaam se

the serial has the entire egypt as background but shown it as india coz the way they r dressed n the back colour yellow is mostly seen in egypt n pharoahs

ryt now im missing action scenes n i really dnt like the heros n villains actng so thand , the serial wud luk better if their is action romance n drama like prc wherein everythng used 2 keep u on foot

anyways thts wat i feel

but no offece 2 rt fans ok:)


madiha .....i agree with u................i pridct that ....... this is new show....and bcoz of rt.......... it will hit......but this a 5 day show.......it will come up as most boring show on back

g15shyama
January 27, 2008, 11:34 AM
I started watching DV but i am sorry to say that the Sagarz have got it all terribly messed up even though the soap as a whole is watchable(at least till the time being). First of all they show us the top of map of india and tell us that the land of the story is there ie Arya....
a)In there, the citizens are divided into TWO classes or sects:The rulers and the workers. From where did the social background of Ancient Greece where
(wikipedia) "Athenian democracy, was based on selection of officials by lot, based on the assumption that all citizens were equally qualified for office. Election was not practised because it was thought to favor the wealthy and powerful. The only state officials who were elected were those of whom expert knowledge and skills were required, such as the ten generals, and the treasurers, who had to be wealthy as any funds revealed to have been embezzled were recovered from a treasurer's private fortune. The courts operated with large juries also selected by lot on a daily basis from an annual pool also selected by lot; there were no judges. Assumption of such offices by the citizens selected was mandatory, and a very modest financial compensation was given to those citizens whose livelihood was compromised by their being thus "drafted" to office."
The laborers in Greece didn used to have the power to vote and after centuries of oppression, they revolted and that led to bloodbath in ancient Greece. And here, one grp of people is entirely WoRKER CLASS:D As far as I know theSOCIETY WAS DIVIDED INTO 4 VARNAS/CASTE IE bRHMIN,KSHETRIYA,VAISHYA(traders) AND sHUDRA(laborers and untouchables)And also, in DV they have shown the OPPressed class as gYPSIES wearinf same sort of clothes.

b) From when in india came Such a council who started electing King. There used to be "sabhas/samitis" in ancient India who used to advise King on selection of crown prince,handle state affairs but NOT choose King among 2 princes.
In ancient greece, the group of prominent members of soceity used to assemble called SENATE and used to elect their leader. That's where Democracy actually started
i really agree with u freind.i m a teacher i know how thw sects evolved how thw 4 varnas were made n how sabhas n samiitis worked.........well aisa lata sagarz r mixing 2 many stories like moasis ki story(egyptian story),dv ki movie etc..........i dunt know why n what is 2 b shown kuch to systematically dikhao.............
i hope sagarz realise this..........
sirk RT ko promot n publicate hi nahi karna hai but give a proper story to him n dharam,this is what think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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panesar100
January 28, 2008, 12:52 PM
the Moses' history......................

And abt plagiarising, i think it shall ad more to the flavour: not now but abt 1 month later. The plot has n looosenend itself yet

Shohinee
March 4, 2008, 10:37 PM
:confused: ummm...has it ever occurred to you that may be "Dharam Veer" is a fairytale and not an historic epic....and so doesn't really need to be based on hard historical facts?;)

komal...
March 5, 2008, 02:42 PM
huny if u dunno den i must tell yu dat dv is a fictional serial nd fiction mein toh kuch bhi chalta hai yaaaar...........:D

garvita
March 6, 2008, 07:10 PM
I started watching DV but i am sorry to say that the Sagarz have got it all terribly messed up even though the soap as a whole is watchable(at least till the time being). First of all they show us the top of map of india and tell us that the land of the story is there ie Arya....
a)In there, the citizens are divided into TWO classes or sects:The rulers and the workers. From where did the social background of Ancient Greece where
(wikipedia) "Athenian democracy, was based on selection of officials by lot, based on the assumption that all citizens were equally qualified for office. Election was not practised because it was thought to favor the wealthy and powerful. The only state officials who were elected were those of whom expert knowledge and skills were required, such as the ten generals, and the treasurers, who had to be wealthy as any funds revealed to have been embezzled were recovered from a treasurer's private fortune. The courts operated with large juries also selected by lot on a daily basis from an annual pool also selected by lot; there were no judges. Assumption of such offices by the citizens selected was mandatory, and a very modest financial compensation was given to those citizens whose livelihood was compromised by their being thus "drafted" to office."
The laborers in Greece didn used to have the power to vote and after centuries of oppression, they revolted and that led to bloodbath in ancient Greece. And here, one grp of people is entirely WoRKER CLASS:D As far as I know theSOCIETY WAS DIVIDED INTO 4 VARNAS/CASTE IE bRHMIN,KSHETRIYA,VAISHYA(traders) AND sHUDRA(laborers and untouchables)And also, in DV they have shown the OPPressed class as gYPSIES wearinf same sort of clothes.

b) From when in india came Such a council who started electing King. There used to be "sabhas/samitis" in ancient India who used to advise King on selection of crown prince,handle state affairs but NOT choose King among 2 princes.
In ancient greece, the group of prominent members of soceity used to assemble called SENATE and used to elect their leader. That's where Democracy actually started



plz i dont want negative commen on dv
agar aapko direct karne ke liye diya jaye to kya aap kar lo ge

panesar100
April 19, 2008, 12:43 PM
to kuch bhi dikhaogeee.

Anyway, its trps are in its all time low.

They show the villains, who make briliant conspiracies; be fooled by a boy of 15 sporting big mustaches:

and a gal waering big mustache as a pundit

nishaz
April 19, 2008, 12:55 PM
i wud not say anything more than that .........birth of veer is same as that of christ(as shown )

I LOVED THE ENTRY OF RAJAT........................he was given more importance


birth of veer is lyk dat of moses not christ